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Late flub leads to last-second loss
onwell said, 2 wins in 2024 may be a high hurdle of achievement based on all the factors you cite. We will have a lame duck coach, a 2nd or 3rd rate OC that just needs a paycheck and is unwanted elsewhere, a TBD QB who will have to learn a brand new system (as will the rest of whatever offensive talent we can muster). On the defensive side of the ball I can't blame any talented underclassmen who jump to the portal. Overall the defense played their butts off this year with zero support from the offense and a mixed bag special teams effort. Gonna be a LONG 2024.
Reply to this commentLate flub leads to last-second loss
onIf there was any doubt about D. Kirkpatrick’s fitness to be fired (which there shouldn’t have been), then he put it to rest when he handed his last game away with that thoroughly unnecessary, inexplicable, asinine failed trick play call late in the 4th, with the game being all but on ice for the Pirates.
What’s arguably worse than the Debacle of 2023 that ECU has just completed is that there’s no reason today to expect better next season. While ECU maybe has three or four individual offensive players who are decent and should be able to help them to win, there’s no evidence that they have a true foundation upon which to build, unless maybe Jeter can be that; but one would think that if he can, then he’d have seen the field this year. Since he didn’t, is he another Q flop? Regarding the OL, while ECU was FINALLY able to run vs. Tulsa, the Tulsa defense has an extremely low ranking, so little should be taken from that; on balance, the OL did not improve over the season.
After 5 seasons, Coach Houston has a .413 winning percentage, not nearly commensurate with his $2.3M yearly take. He’s put himself squarely on the hot seat with an offensive wasteland in tow looking at 2024 (no. 128 out of 130 in the nation), needing a complete overhaul in a major hurry, sufficient for a bowl at minimum, failing which he should be released. That insecurity alone will likely make it very difficult to secure a quality Offensive Coordinator, and added to it is the very legit question of defensive players and the (sparse) offensive talent portal defections to avoid another season of futility.
Reply to this commentLate flub leads to last-second loss
onI suppose it’s only fitting that the Pirate offense should finish the way it did. On a day in which it managed over 400 total yards while having three turnovers, and another possession taken away by a fumbled punt return, the offense shook a little more salt into the wound with a last-play fumble. Actually, the last two offensive plays by the Pirates were typical of the season as a whole. On a third and 1-1/2 - 2 yds to go, DK calls for the RPO with Harris running into the mosh pit at the middle of the line for no gain. It was not an aggressive RPO call that would put Tulsa under some pressure, rather more like a, “if we get it fine, if not, punt” sort of calls. Given the relative success Flinn had when he rolled out, one might think you could have put Tulsa under a little more pressure while instructing Flinn to be extra careful. But no, the Pirates appeared happy to punt the ball away and count on the defense. And, it worked. Having an otherwise mediocre performance, the defense came through when it counted most. Now, with only 3 minutes and change left to play, DK decides to run some Wildcat… and the rest is history. If you had run the Wildcat a couple of times during the game with proper execution, then anybody could understand using it again. Another questionable play call, in a year full of unanswered questions for the offense. Nice to see the solid rushing attack, and it didn’t look like RPO to me.
GOOD LUCK to the seniors, and thanks for all of your efforts. I wish DK well, but I am not unhappy he is moving on…
Reply to this commentPirates changing directions on offense
onThis has been a tough year to say the least. I did not really expect us to have 8 or 9 wins, but I certainly expected 5 or 6. It appeared to me we have some talented players, but for some reason we just did not play well. A lack of experience? I do not know but thank God we had a decent defense.
Good Lord willing, things will get back on track next season.
ECU_VOL
Reply to this commentPirates changing directions on offense
onAnother issue that has gotten little attention (probably because it must compete with many other issues) is observations that I've been hearing that the receivers, besides pass catching issues, are simply unable to get separation, so when a pocket forms, and it definitely does, now and then, there's just nowhere reasonable for Flinn to put the ball. Would that be lessened if Flinn was better? Yes, but still...
...and yet another kind of scary question that keeps rattling around in my brain is why Jeter hasn't taken the field, especially since his redshirt protection is no longer an issue (and is very arguably a much smaller issue these days anyway, given the Portal effect.) Is it a Mason Garcia II situation?
Yes, the future holds many questions and a boatload of work for DK's heir, but as far as I'm concerned, this should be Mike Houston's one and only do-over; he needs to remain on the hot seat.
Reply to this commentPirates changing directions on offense
onThe reason DK is being dismissed is not the bad record, per se. It’s the process which has played out this season for the offense, resulting in the dismal record to date. His inability, or intransigence - take your pick - to make major changes to the concepts he and his staff attempted to install, resulting in repeated inept performances, which proved to be the last straw. Mike Houston is a loyal guy, and perhaps to his own detriment, allowed this season to play out in order to give DK a chance to put a decent product on the field.
The Pirate offense has multiple problems. The first, and foremost i/m/o, is the failure in talent evaluation. The O-line’s failure to noticeably improve on their run game blocking through the season, regardless of shuffling the personnel, does not bode well for the future. No one expected 200 yards rushing per game this year, given the necessity of integrating so many new players into the system. However, last Saturday’s continued failure to provide even the semblance of a run game exhibits a chilling lack of progress. Yet, throughout the year, game after game, the same RPO fiasco returned to the field. Certainly, every opponent has a say in what plays out on game day, but at some point, you have to accept the fact you’re the biggest problem, not your competition.
Without a legitimate threat in the run game, the Pirate version of RPO consistently operated behind the chains, putting a lot of pressure on inexperienced quarterbacks and receivers to continuously move the sticks. When your opponents don’t have any respect for your ability to run the ball, they will live in the offensive backfield, putting constant pressure on the qb. Combine this with Garcia and Flinn being mostly inaccurate, and receivers dropping catchable passes, you get the inevitable poor results.
My big complaint, why keep doing the same thing over and over? I don’t care how good it looks in practice, if you can’t get your unit to bring “it” to the game. Dumb it down to basics, if that’s what it takes to give the team a chance to win. The Pirates have good running backs, why couldn’t you try a play-action, quick hitting run concept? Pirate Nation would have appreciated the efforts, even if the record didn’t change. At least you tried.
Reply to this comment on Thank God , Only 1 more loss to go before trying to erase the results of this football season. I thought ECU learned their lesson after the John Thompson era in the early 2000’s. At least we had a couple of winning seasons before Houston’s couching went South. From 8-5 to 2-10, that’s quite a drop off. Just wonder who the next coach will be and hope he knows something about offense and how to score points besides kicking feel goals.
Reply to this comment on Well, FINALLY they're making a move, announced this AM. I genuinely feel badly for DK and the young men who are competing. I've seen no evidence of bad faith on the part of any of them, but it's about time; there's a lot of work ahead to turn this ship around.
Reply to this comment on We’ve got another game to play. With another effort like yesterday, the Pirate offense might get all the way to 130… ARRRRGH!!
Reply to this comment on The Pirate Nation grousing over DK, et al is widespread, and I'm certainly not arguing, but of course the buck stops with MH, and he gets paid a very hefty salary for the privilege. My attitude is more of a "I don't care WHAT you do to fix it, Coach, but fix it, and make sure you have a bowl team in 2024."
How does a team have a no. 25 ranked run d (no. 37 overall d) and yet a 2 - 9 record (one of the wins being vs. an FCS program)?? By having a no. 128 ranked offense! (Thank God for Eastern Mich. and Iowa.)
Reply to this comment on While I’m not ready to scuttle the Houston era just yet, I believe it is long past time to address the issue of not having even a semblance of a run game. Up front, the only consistency shown by the offensive line is their inability to properly block for the RPO scheming to which DK and MH remain stubbornly wedded, even after a major shuffle in personnel didn’t work. Granted, having your #1 quarterback prove to be a game time bust requires some major adjustments. When Garcia flopped, the RPO should have been scrapped. He brought the physical capabilities to the field which everyone knew Flinn didn’t have. Granted, Flinn understands the RPO concept probably better than Garcia. But, he doesn’t possess the physical talent of Garcia. That’s not a knock on Flinn, just a fact everyone knew from the jump. Where Garcia could overcome some of the o-line’s deficiencies, Flinn cannot. So, if Flinn is the man, why not change up your run scheme to a quicker hitting, north and south concept which could benefit both him and the o-line? It’s a fair question, and one which hasn’t been answered. If you’ve tried it in practice, and it didn’t work, tell us. Pirate Nation won’t like it any better, but at least we will know you tried. As it is, Garcia can’t get on the field, and Flinn struggles to be mediocre. And the o-line, God bless them, because I know they are trying.
The sad summary of this season should include the dismissal of most, if not all, of the offensive staff. That begins with DK. Also, the talent evaluation process needs a major overhaul.
Reply to this comment on ...like it would mean anything, whatsoever, had ECU managed to kick a field goal late to avoid the shutout? That even being in the discussion is a measure of how bad things have gotten.
To get the NIL bs out of the way, yeah, sure, I’ll call that a factor; some Pirate Nation citizens seem to derive comfort from that. …but dozens of teams will be playing in a post-season game whose NIL position is no better than ECU’s, and plenty are worse. Every time I hear that excuse, I feel like it’s probably a cousin of Mike Houston behind the keyboard to whom he’s paid a few bucks to comment.
It’s a little unfair to judge Flinn based on the OL in front of him and the receiver corps in front of them, yet there’s nothing to suggest that it would make enough of a difference even given the huge improvements needed in those other areas. Still, I would think that even if only out of desperation, we’d by now have seen Garcia (again) or Jeter, begging the question exactly what the heck is really going on with this team?
The offense that Coach has brought to this his 5th season, in combination with his hefty salary, entirely validates the question of his fitness to stay on; undoubtedly, much better than a .421 winning percentage at this point in his tenure was anticipated when he was hired at a very healthy salary. He has put himself in a true bind, needing a complete offensive overhaul (save maybe for Sowell and a couple of RBs), such that making a bowl in ’24 (though a low bar) will be very difficult nonetheless (assuming he survives the Debacle of ’23), and IMPOSSIBLE if out of frustration some defensive players bail, but if ECU doesn’t make a bowl in ‘24, a dismissal will be the only responsible course to take.
Reply to this commentWind may be a factor in Annapolis
onNo QB at all. So difficult to watch. OC needs to be seriously evaluated. Portal needs to be our friend and we need to get a QB. D has played well enough to have won several games. OC has zero imagination. And he is the catalyst for the QB. Sometimes you just don’t understand when we throw short of the line of gain on a 3 rd down attempt?!?! Play Garcia next week. Can’t do any worse.
Reply to this commentPirates dealt first hoops setback
onMentioned in third paragraph
Reply to this commentPirates dealt first hoops setback
onFailed to mention SCU's scoring guard had 20 points, anytime he wanted to score, he did. We had no answer to stop him.
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